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[abatele]

In general guvernele se vor feri sa introduca Linux pe orice platforma oficiala din cel putin 4 motive:
1. Ignoranta;
2. Pentru ca e liber, asta nu baga nimic in buzunarul niciunui ministru insarcinat cu IT-ul sau cu orice altceva, deci e o varianta neatragatoare;
3. E nevoie de personal cu oarecare pregatire in domeniu pentru configurarea sistemului de operare si aplicatiilor, or acestia sunt mult mai putini decat cei care lucreaza cu windoza;
4. Guvernul nu poate controla evolutia ulterioare a sistemului de operare si a aplicatiilor. Prin urmare nu poate trage la raspundere o firma anume, nu beneficiaza de suport tehnic, si ar trebui sa plateasca in plus pentru asta eventual prin crearea unui departament special pentru a oferi suport tehnic.

Si, vorba lui @rs, guvernul ca fiind una dintre cele mai bogate organizatii din tara, nu se va grabi spre ceva care le scoate bani din buzunar in loc sa-i aduca.
Eu cred ca pentru programele elementare intr-un Linux configurat cum trebuie, si secretarele blonde, si dinozaurii de peste 50 de ani se vor putea descurca sa editeze un text sau sa vada un fisier video daca au invatat/folosit programele similare si in windoza.
Nu se va putea insa implementa Linuxul pe scara larga in administratia (cel putin din Romania), pentru ca programele dezvoltate pentru contabilitate & stuff sunt facute pentru windoza. Uneori "genialii" programatori au ramas la stadiul de paradox incat dau peste cap sistemele de operare mai recente - dar trebuiesc folosite pentru ca "baiatul lui tata" care e mare mahar in guvern sau nu stiu pe unde, scrie soft pentru contabilitate sau pentru farmacii, iar acel soft este "agreat" de institutia centrala care are pe mana puterea, recte banii si nu te platesc decat daca faci ce si cum iti spun ei.
Asa ca... intr-un stat mafiot cum e Romania (si din nefericire nu e singurul), sansele ca Linuxul sa ajunga vreodata sa fie remarcat de oficiali, sunt nule.

[gheorghe]

Majoritatea aplicatiile financiare au fost facute pe windows pentru ca inainte, si chiar si acum in linux nu ai medii de programare la fel de usor de folosit ca in windows. Ce alternativa avea linuxul pentru foxpro, acces, visual studio, etc. si chestii de genul asta.

[undergraver]

Ce alternativa avea linuxul pentru foxpro, acces, visual studio, etc. si chestii de genul asta.

Inca nu are ... cel putin ceva mai friendly decat ce e pe windows

[~Empathy~]

Majoritatea aplicatiile financiare au fost facute pe windows pentru ca inainte, si chiar si acum in linux nu ai medii de programare la fel de usor de folosit ca in windows. Ce alternativa avea linuxul pentru foxpro, acces, visual studio, etc. si chestii de genul asta.

Medii de programare? Fii serios bre. Poate vrei sa spui API-uri imense care fac orice si sunt simplu de folosit de catre oricine. .NET in zilele noastre, VCL si FoxPro in zilele mai demult etc.

[oblio]

O discutie pe aceasta tema pe LWN (in fine, una similara - scolile din SUA - doar inlocuiti "scoala" cu "guvern" si "profesor" cu "functionar" si tot aia iese ). Sunt cateva replici memorabile pe acolo: http://lwn.net/Articles/296991/

Yes it is a symptom of a more general disfunction in the schools.

That said, down here in the LA swamps Linux in the schools is going just fine on the backend. But the desktops are the exclusive property of Dell and Microsoft and will be unless the entire education system gets upended.

First off, one must understand what the purpose of the schools are today. Hint: students are NOT a priority, they are props. The US government school system is run by and for the benefit of the teachers; more specifically the teacher's unions. Adn there is one important fact about teachers that impacts this subject: Teachers are more resistent to learning new things than almost any other groups of people one could name. The kids could care less if you loaded OO.o and taught that, but the teachers won't hear of it, even if you found a good textbook. Change Bad! Not Want!

The argument that 'the kids need to learn Windows/Office because that is what they will encounter in the real world' doesn't hold water. Unless you believe an 8th grader today will be able to find an XP machine running Office 2003 by the time they finish college and enter the workforce. All those Apple II clones kids learned on back in the 80's sure helped em get ready for Windows 95/98.

Even the large software vendors could at least be brought to ensuring Wine compatibility with just one or two large school systems going over. Remember that educational software tends to be low tech stuff, it wouldn't be a problem.

Nope, every possible issue can be addressed except resistence to change, but since teachers have an absolute veto the conversation ends before it even begins.

Who care about the wasted money? Remember this is government agencies, the people making the decision don't care, the IT people implementing it don't really care and neither do school boards unless the budget gets so tight they can't afford a new stadium they are happy to submit purchase orders to Dell for new shiny Windows boxes.

And then it gets worse. Schools get lots of technology grant money that HAS to be spent certain ways. So given an option to get in on a grant that will pay for new shiny Dells or to pass it up and spend local money to do a LTSP project with the hardware
you already have, which option is the winning decision?

The simple reason is that in the US school setting, Linux has no compelling advantage over Windows.

Generally, what are the arguments for Linux adoption?
Price? Doesn't apply - Microsoft heavily subsidizes educational purchases.
Security? Doesn't apply - judging by the amazingly unsecure, routinely exploited computer systems that many schools run, school sysadmins simply don't care whether their machines are secure or not.
Source code availability? Doesn't apply - most teachers (and that includes the ones teaching computer science) have neither the skill nor the inclination to contribute to open source or heavily customize their OS.
The idealism of the free software movement? Doesn't apply - a couple of months working in the school system will destroy any idealism you might have and turn you into a lifelong cynic.

Since in a school Linux has no obvious advantages over Windows, when it comes time to make a purchase, the OS chosen will be the one that the teachers and administrators are most familiar with - and that means Windows.

Medii de programare? Fii serios bre. Poate vrei sa spui API-uri imense care fac orice si sunt simplu de folosit de catre oricine. .NET in zilele noastre, VCL si FoxPro in zilele mai demult etc.

Medii de programare + API-uri imense, integrate, ar fi mai bine zis

[sabertooth]

Ce de vise pe aici.

Profi care sa stie cate ceva despre Windows/Linux/de ce nu *nix si care sa fie platiti cu 6+ mil? muhahaha.

Ce credeti ca numai voi vreti vacante in Austria/Grecia/Turcia/... ?

Numai voi vreti sa mancati o carne mai fara grasime?

N-o sa vedem ever nimic din toate astea pana nu va fi regandit nivelul lefurilor din invatamant.

Si chiar daca se va rezolva problema salarizarii spuneti-mi ce fel de specialist IT este ala care va accepta sa stea la catedra si sa se lupte cu niste pusti obraznici si sa-i invete despre nimic, fara nici un challenge pentru el?

Cam cat timp ii va lua pana i se va lua?

N-ajunge numai leafa, mai trebuie si un mic fior intelectual.